Debate or No Debate? That is the Question

This topic came about over a discussion in a political arena…The basic premise is; Should we be deciding on OR condemning and judging any elected official over their religious views or following?

Initial Statement:

This is the land of the free not the republic of Christianity. All men are created equal and all men’s rights and freedoms are the same and ANYONE who does not follow this simple axiom in allowing ALL others their own paths, rights, freedoms and religions should not be allowed to imply that they are a patriot or support and love The United States. Even the name of the Country implies inclusion. It is The UNITED States of America, not the individual divided states of America. This country was founded on the premise of freedom, not condemning anyone who is not Christian. The whole purpose was to have freedom from the persecution of religious choice and now you spit on the very vision that made this country so great.

Christians don’t even live like Christians should, so when, how or why did they become the deciding authority? How dare you say everyone MUST choose YOUR way of life and thought or they are not worthy of life and must be talked about or treated like shit. God himself gave us freewill, so please tell me how you even try to usurp God’s own authority????? How do you decide YOU have the right to tell someone else they are wrong for not thinking like you???? So much time is spent on judging and condemning there is no time nor concern for actually looking out for the best interest of US (The acronym for our country asserts unity for all…. THE U.S.)

… Live your lives, take care of your family and friends and be kind to yourselves and the ones you don’t know. If you continue to spew rumors, falsehoods, ignorance and hatred you are equal to the ones you judge so harshly. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

NO ONE can cry about separation of church and state when it is the “church” that seems to be the deciding factor of whether or not you can hold office in this land of the “free”.

Comment:

Only after years of the government doing their best to remove God out of everything first! I say “BRAVO” to the church’s for finally stepping up and trying to put this country back on the straight and narrow path! True separation will come though,…….it’s called the “RAPTURE”{:{)

Rebuttal to Comment:

I can certainly agree that since “God” has been almost forbidden in public the importance, thoughtfulness and systematic delivery of values have become an endangered species but, I must voice my concern…It would be fine to include religion or spirituality or what ever you choose to call your dogma if there were only one belief. The issue arises because there are so many franchises within Christianity that you couldn’t possibly have someone running this country that judged every situation by ANY religions theistic views.

If you want religion to rule then apply it to your own lives, then get back to me. Which sect would you propose should be sitting in the Presidential chair? Is it a Catholic with Popes consent? Should they be Baptist? Maybe Protestant or maybe Jehovah’s Witness’s or even a Mormon? One of the problems with religion being injected into the rights, privileges and laws that govern The U.S. is that not even Christians agree on which doctrine is the ruling doctrine. You even have disdain within the community itself, as to which interpretation is the “right” one …So you just end up asking for things to move from civil disagreement all the way to religiously convicted civil wars….

It seems to me the ONLY thing that has changed since God has been less and less visible in the public is Christians themselves. People who don’t believe in God or question or just don’t follow Christian doctrine have not changed one bit. Families that use to make church a priority are the ones that now evade the duties of proper instruction. The Atheists and Agnostics didn’t believe before the methodic removal, so I would say it is an issue within “the church” more than it is within the world. It is the religious themselves that have allowed slack within their own homes that have caused the division and disrespect of one another and the perceived fall of Babylon. Just because the ten commandments are no longer hung on the wall in the town square doesn’t mean you can’t walk the talk. The public expulsion has just been used as an excuse for the ones that once followed a specific moral code to whine and complain.

I would just like to reiterate the First Amendment of the United States Constitution….”Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”…Surely no one questions the validity or massive importance of the Constitution..Or should we amend it to say Congress shall ,make no law WITHOUT religion?

Phewwww, now im outta breath!! lol

“As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion” ~ George Washington ( 1st United States President)

________________________________________________________________________This is an interesting ongoing debate in this country. I would welcome ANY and ALL points of view..However if you choose to be foul, condescending, disrespectful and/or distasteful with your comment, I will delete it.

Perception is 9/10th of the lie…the crux of ill-gotten wisdom.

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Relational Love Advice?

ANYTIME, ANYONE says they love you, be humbled that you were chosen to be loved at ANY level. Love is a gift, not to be taken for granted at any degree. Just because your definition of love is different from another’s does not mean YOUR definition is the right one.

But if you must judge another’s ability to love then before you take another step after that first “I love you”, ask him/her what that means to them. What is their definition? What makes them feel loved and what makes them feel like they are showing or giving love?…If the answer is close to yours then take a hand and begin your journey.

If you have not asked yourself those questions, let alone your perceived significant other, then take your consequence and learn from it…It is your fault if you are in or have stayed in a relationship that YOU feel has left you short in patience, commitment, grace, hope and charity…
We teach people how to treat us, so if you have been treated any less than what you believe you deserve. Take a look at you…NOT THEM.

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Most beneficial in a relationship…Want or Need ~ One woman’s bias opinion

Dear Sister,

I will take both for 1 thousand Alex…

I do not believe that want is what motivates you to hold on to and fight for a thing. A want is easily changed.  A need is just what it sounds like, a necessity. Don’t you WANT to be NECESSARY in your relationship? If you are not a necessity, in YOUR relationship, doesn’t that change the whole dynamic? A mother doesn’t give her life for her child because she only wants to, she gives it because she needs him to survive and thrive at any cost and at the same time she can learn to move past the child not physically being there because she now NEEDS to survive herself to thwart losing her mind. Need, is very important for survival and it does not matter if it is the survival of a plant, a species or a relationship. Just as love has many faces so does “need”. You don’t love your mother, the way you love your significant other, yet (in most cases) you love them both. The word need, in this case, is not a metaphor in describing an obsessive attribute.

We have tried to make a relationship mean,” if we’re going to be together then you have to give me what I want and in return I will do it for you too.” Anytime a relationship is based on ultimatums, it’s very foundation already has cracks in it. It’s too one-sided and will topple over easily. If both people are focused on getting their wants fulfilled, somebody gonna get hurt. I’m almost positive you don’t “need” or “want” a man that only “wants” to fulfill his “wants”, and we sure as hell don’t “need” someone always taking care of mostly our “wants”. We are not spoiled children. We are beautiful, intelligent creatures who have been formed with amazing grace and magnificent care…Recognize that yourself and you won’t “need” so much reminding that you are worthy and wanted.

We try too hard to be right and there isn’t enough trying too hard to be happy. We try too hard to be in charge and don’t try too hard to be a part of it.  Instead of supporting, we try to control the other in some way or fashion, and as hard as it may be to hear, any so called “good” man, ain’t gonna be controlled. He WILL get tired of vying for the lead and fighting for his “throne”. He goes out into the world and fights every day, he NEEDS to have a place (his palace) of peace, a place he KNOWS he is WANTED and NEEDED, a place where he can rest his head.

The bottom line is “want” and “need” both have enormous value. We tend to “need” someone to please our wants. We are very selfish when it comes to being in a relationship. Everyone is always screaming me, me, me. Even when we supposedly do something for the other person, we do it for ourselves and not for them; If you think that’s not true, why is one of the first things we say or think when we get upset is “but I have done blah blah blah and he/she just won’t blah blah blah”.  If you really are giving, then give because you WANT to, not because you NEED accolades.

Anytime you get ready to do something for another person ask yourself one question. “Do I “need” to have recognition for my actions, thoughts or deeds from said person in order for me to execute this act? If the answer is you expect reciprocation or acknowledgment. You are doing it for you, not them, and you should be fair and say “I am doing this expecting something back from you.” That way, you have set their expectations and if they choose to accept, you will reap your reward for being kind to you. If they choose not to accept you won’t have to make them pay for what they thought was a gift of selfless affection AND you avoid a lot of resentment, arguments and punishments. You wanna BE grown, then ACT grown.

It is time we find it important to be honest and forthcoming, for ourselves, others and our affiliations. We must be brave enough to be successful within ourselves so that it will overflow and it is me that I am giving and not some representative we have conjured up because we don’t think I is good enough.

… the most beneficial thought or service we can give our relationships is… You should WANT to fulfill your partner’s “needs”.

 

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Perception is 9/10th of the lie…the crux of ill-gotten wisdom

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Elephant’s Gone Wild..show me your tale

Outrage, shock and awe are the emotions that should be provoked when you look at the picture of Governor Jan Brewer with her finger in Barack Obama’s face. Did she not get the memo that he was elected to the Executive Office? Did she miss his inauguration? Maybe she doesn’t have a T.V. or she was in the bat cave during the election.  I want to believe she was on some kind of hallucinogenic drug that caused some sort of flippant attitude delusion. She could not possibly be that ignorant.

His Excellency, The Honorable and if you’re feeling comfy, Mr. President are all acceptable terms when speaking with The President of The United States of America. He/she is to be greeted, conversed with and given salutations as if they were labeled the most powerful person in the world. He is to be treated like a person who holds a position that not only demands, but deserves the utmost courtesy and favor. He has been put through THE toughest application process for a job that exists in the U.S. His bed, couch and life have been turned upside down and inside out. His character has been questioned and attacked, all in order for him to even try and qualify to walk the path of The Leader of the Free World.

The 44th elected President of The United States has been accused of being a terrorist, a communist, non-patriot and denied any acknowledgement of any accomplishment. He could come up with the cure for cancer and still they would belittle and betray him. At least Presidents of the past were accused of behaviors they were guilty of….but I digress.

I would like to remind everyone that whether you like Barack Obama or not, it is a non-factor. It doesn’t matter one bit what you think of the man personally as far as the treatment of him is concerned. He has earned the position he holds. He didn’t hit the presidential lottery or get lucky and find the winning who wants to be president toy in the Cracker Jack box. On top of, guess what? He was elected. He sits in charge because he was chosen. I am so sorry if he was not your chosen, but that too is a non-factor.

The minute he became President is the minute you lost the right to treat him with anything less than honor and dignity. Some people have behavior that resembles resentment at having to serve under Barack Obama. ****News flash****It is not the man that you have a duty to hold in high esteem, serve with honor and loyalty and defend till you take your last breathe. Even if it is too much of a stretched to recognize Mr. Obama as the Leader, it is your duty as an American Patriot to walk purposefully, carefully and thoughtfully when in communication with THE President. It is THE OFFICE AND POSITION OF THE PRESIDENT that you serve, not the man. Get over your bias, prejudice, ignorance and stupidity. If you want to site patriotism as part of who your are, as part of the religion you practice, then you must walk and act like the card carrying flag waving American citizen you claim to be!

How dare ANYONE think they could raise and then put their finger in the face of a United States President…Oh, and here is the kicker for me. Jan Brewer responded to her disgusting portrayal of a servant of this country by claiming that he was disrespectful to her because he walked away from her during her mutinous behavior. What??? I think she’s lucky he didn’t sick the secret service on her ass. If you even speak out of turn in a court of law, the judge can and will send you to jail for contempt…What should a current sitting President be allowed to do for such a blatant act of disrespect? Never in the history of all the Presidents before him, has there been the extent of maltreatment that Mr. President Barack Obama has been made to endure. It is disgusting and downright embarrassing. If you think you are embarrassed when children misbehave in public; how do you think, as a country, we should feel when this kind of overt obnoxious behavior has been witnessed? What disciplinary action should be taken for such pronounced disregard for the highest office in the land; especially when done  in front of the neighbors????

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Just-is a crime

I was skimming through the news the other day and I came across this headline “Joseph Ozment Missing”. My first thought was “Who in the hell is Joseph Ozment?” and second “Why is this in the headlines??”  The next thing I thought to do was to take action! So Google it was! I had to find out who, what, when, where and why this was important enough to make the front page of several news sites.

Ok, so who is Joseph Ozment? Joseph Ozment is a convicted murderer who enjoyed the gift of a pardon as one of Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour’s last acts before he left office. Ozment testified that he shot Ricky A. Montgomery, a convenient store clerk, twice in the head as he crawled across the floor during an armed robbery, committed in 1992, because he did not want Mr. Montgomery to be able to identify him. He (Ozment) eventually turned states witness and testified against the three others involved to avoid the death penalty. He ended up receiving life without the possibility of parole. Sometime later he became a trustee at Governor Barbour’s mansion. Barbour sited belief in redemption and the desire to give back the rights to vote and hunt as his reasoning for the kind bestowal of clemency for Ozment and around 200 other inmates…Now this convicted murderer, who was to be in court earlier this week, did not show up for the court date and no one knows of his current where-a-bouts.

I could end this now with a great big WOW and I am pretty sure everyone who reads this would completely understand my astringent declaration.  However, my need to expound on this situation is screaming and I realize I must relieve its agony. The following piece of this commentary will attempt to plead on the side of true justice and not just what could be perceived as fair or unfair.

I am not trying to make a case for or against the death penalty, but I do think it should be taken off the table until the system that judges can do so with less perversion than exist now. I don’t see how you can take a chance with a human life when you may or may not be right. Sometimes you hit the nail on the head and other times you miss. I mean, there have been several (and I’m being shy with that description) people proven and announced innocent AFTER the state has put them to death. What do you say? Oops, my bad??? How is that an answer for such an egregious act? How is it that people have tried to get DNA tested or testimonies being re-canted from eye-witness’s, or others confessing to actually doin the crime does not make the court stop and say, this has to be looked in to? How is it that they move forward with and execution of a possibly innocent man/woman and then have the nerve to give a  pardon posthumously, without consequence to anyone????

There are those that argue an eye for an eye, to which I say..Ummm, could you make sure you got the right eye before you poke it out? Ok, so a blue eyed person committed the crime, you have blue eyes, now you are sentenced to death, even though there is blood DNA that could possibly clear you of all charges and yet you are still taken to the gas chamber without being allowed to test that one piece of evidence that you know would send you home with your family and clear your name. I mean, it sounds ridiculous, but that is how foolish it sounds to look into someone’s case AFTER, they are deceased.

Then there are even those that will say capital punishment is a deterrent. Now, I don’t know about you, but I have yet to hear anyone ever, either by hearsay or from the horse’s mouth, say “Phew, thank God for that death penalty or I would have been a serial killer for sure”.  The current system of punishment for crime is disgustingly fallible. Since 1973 twenty-six states have released 140 people, with evidence of innocence, from death row. ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY people! This is a representation of ignorance, which paints a picture of illness, and needs to be healed.

An execution is permanent. There is no do-over after taking a life, and if the state kills a human being that is later proven innocent and they issue a posthumous pardon, didn’t they then admit to committing murder? At the very least the state then became an accomplice to murder. Who pays for that crime? Who gets to go to the electric chair for taking that life? Why is it even an option to deny testing of DNA, BEFORE execution, that wasn’t able to be tested when the accused went to their first trial? Why is this not mandatory? Why are we allowed to put someone to death without being made to look into, test or set up a new trial date, if need be?

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Why did England band the death penalty?

“On 20 May 1998 the House of Commons voted to ratify the 6th Protocol of the European Convention on Human Rights prohibiting capital punishment except “in time of war or imminent threat of war.” The last remaining provisions for the death penalty under military jurisdiction (including in wartime) were removed when section 21(5) of the Human Rights Act 1998 came into force on 9 November 1998. On 10 October 2003, effective from 1 February 2004,[20] the UK acceded to the 13th Protocol, which prohibits the death penalty under all circumstances,[21] so that the UK may no longer legislate to restore the death penalty while it is subject to the Convention. It can only now restore it if it withdraws from the Council of Europe.” ~ Source: Wikipedia

“Timothy John Evans (20 November 1924 – 9 March 1950) was a Welshman accused of murdering his wife and daughter at their residence in Notting Hill, London in November 1949. In January 1950 Evans was tried and convicted of the murder of his daughter, and he was sentenced to death by hanging. During his trial, Evans had accused his neighbor, John Christie, of being responsible for the murders. Three years after Evans’s trial, Christie was found to be a serial killer who had murdered a number of women at his property, including his wife, and this cast serious doubt on the safety of Evans’s conviction. An official inquiry conducted 16 years after Evans’s hanging confirmed that Evans’s daughter had been murdered by Christie, and Evans was subsequently granted a posthumous pardon. Christie admitted that he had also murdered Beryl Evans.” ~  Source: Wikipedia

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England abolished capital punishment in 1969, except for the occasion of war or treason, because of the Timothy John Evans case. They later (I believe in the year 2000) made the death penalty itself a crime under ANY circumstance, due to any possibility of a disgraceful reprehensible outcome.

The bottom line is…putting a human being to death without absolute unequivocal proof is not JUSTICE…it JUST-IS a crime.

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Perception is 9/10ths of the lie…the crux of ill-gotten wisdom

 

 

 

 

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We Who?

We the people…We the people what? What does that mean? Does that mean WE the government? WE “the people” do not exist. We do not exist to the government and we do not exist to ourselves, so what does that mean? I want to believe it originally meant the inclusion of all persons, but that wouldn’t be true either. It did not include women, children or non-white, it was exclusively white men, so who was and is we?

“We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.” This is what our Forefathers stated as our “motto”. This was meant to be a statement of new mission, new places and ideas, new thoughts and the support of new ideologies. It meant that WE meant all. It meant that WE were inclusive and not purposely exclusive.

Granted, The Fathers had no way of seeing the future and predicting the application of their intentions, but I in no way believe they meant it to be used to twist, degrade or find ways to shun ANY of our neighbors, domestic or foreign, without validated earnest cause. I believe they made this statement out of a goodness of heart and meant well for all, meant to protect all; even as all became more than what they originally recognized or could foresee. So how is it that we have made it mean segregation and degradation? How have we become the country of oxymoronic theology? This Country has become the biggest representation of bigotry and ignorance. It has lost sight of  every hope, dream and purpose designated by the beginning of it’s quest, and the most ironic part of it all is that “we” actually find righteousness in the harsh unwanted judgment and condemnation of foreign Countrys, States, Towns and Providences, which, by the way, tend to include our own domestic brethren, on their ideas and treatments of each other. WE have the audacity to think that our teachings and way of life are better than anyone else’s. Somewhere in the evolution of US we grew abnormally sized testicles which evidently produce the very pungent hormone of arrogance.

Instead of substantiating the proposed gift of opportunity, we have all but annihilated the American Indian, enslaved at least one race and oppressed so many, I don’t even have enough time to name one by one. What part of rape, humiliation, decadence and murder means freedom, justice, defense, tranquility or blessings? I am appalled and confused. I am outraged and disgusted with the example we bring forth to represent “we”. What happen to the open arms policy we initially offered up as our mantra? What happen to the idea of freedom, liberty and the right to pursue happiness anyway we saw fit (so long as it does not harm another, of course)? How did we get to if you don’t look like me then you don’t fit and we will omit?

Now we have these false prophets standing in the place of what was to be true government for the people by the people. They offer in place of understanding and honor the disgrace and condemnation of every excellent body of thought or idea supposedly represented and planted for harvest to feed and nourish this great Country of ours. We have those that will cheat on or leave their spouse while the one’s that promised to honor and obey them try and survive great illness. These are the very same ones that would call for the impeachment of an American President over the very same behavior, like their own stalls don’t stink. Those that would not be here if not for the immigrant ancestor (whom did not speak English when they first arrived), but stand every day for the maltreatment of the ones that make that trek now. The ones that risk their lives because, although it may be in great vein, they believe that this is the greatest place on earth. They come because they see this as the best and they risk their lives, freedom and character just to have a taste of what they consider incomparable. We have ones that will stand up and deliver pardons to admitted and/or rightfully convicted murderers and let one’s that have been wrongfully convicted or shown incredible transformations be put to death despite the evidence that they are innocent or truly rehabilitated and not only can be but are showing that they are a positive contributor to society; all based on a judicial technicality or poorly perceived superiority. A human life is worth you not admitting you were wrong or that the system that you support and work for failed? Really? The most fearful ignorant losers are the one’s that can dish a football field full of manure out to the people but get upset by someone saying the chickens have come home to roost. Is this who represents me??

You cannot state you are patriotic and you stand for freedom if you have to spew venom at another just to try and sell your ideas as the most befitting and competent concepts. The honesty of the situation is that as long as you infringe on another’s right to worship as they see fit, to think as they choose, to love whom they do or to be who they are, you are not patriotic. Why is it ok for YOU to say and do things that I do not believe in and you not be judge as the same non-patriotic treason loving traitor as you label me?

Does no one realize there are fundamental laws of the Universe? Do you not realize the one that is most often experienced is the law of attraction? What you sew, you WILL reap in one way or another. What you do to another will reproduce itself with or without your permission or will. You cannot invade, betray, lie, steal, deceive, spit on, hang, rape or murder without it coming back. Life is a boomerang, all you can do is be vigilant in making sure what you throw out is gentle enough for you to get back. If you have not lead with kindness, consideration, thoughtfulness, some selflessness, small judgments on others and given with grace and brilliance, then you must expect and receive with some dignity and honor your fowl tasting just dues. You cannot expect everyone to look at the results and never call you on the carpet. Even if no one ever said “the chickens have come home to roost”, the evil events that have manifested right in front of our eyes, have continued to amplify and make spectacles our own false promises and deliberate rapacious actions. You can take it to the bank that we have not seen nor experienced ANYTHING that we have not given out.

I in no way mean to offend anyone. I am merely stating the facts of life from my point of expression. While I greatly fear that we have burned the rope at both ends so severely that we cannot come back from the black cloud we have released, I have immense hope that we will mend our fences, our minds, our behaviors, our thoughts, our prejudice, our actions and our relations. I hope that in all we have gone through we learn to be kind and gentle, loving and purposefully giving. My greatest hope is that I can talk to Allah while your conversation with Jehovah inspires your heart as I ask you to pass the salt.

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Perception is 9/10ths of the lie…the crux of ill-gotten wisdom

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Perception is 9/10ths of the lie…

The truth is a lie and a lie is honesty…

How is it that 2 people can see the exact same picture, event, person, place or object and come up with 2 separate explanations?? Why is it that we would spar till verbal death (and sometimes battle even to physical death) over our perception or explanation of the very same circumstance/s being “THE God’s honest truth” (times two, of course) ??? How are we so sure that what we saw, heard, taste, smelled or touched is the very thing we say it is? Why is it worth debate?

Truth has been defined as a judgment, a conformity, sincerity in action or actual state of a matter. The problem with giving your testimony the foundation of truth is that truth in this reality does not exist. The only statement you can build your portion of the facts on is honesty. Your “truth” is based in YOUR reality, YOUR sensibility, YOUR authenticity…YOUR certainty. Anytime you make a statement of “truth” it is and always will be based on your perception. Fortunately or unfortunately perception is built with experience. Each experience you have gives you your outlook and definitions of love, happiness, pain, desire, colors, rights and wrongs etc…If the only thing we know is what we have familiarity with, and each human being is an individual entity, and each entity has only their observations, practices and participation’s then being one ensures a biased perception. I believe the old saying is true “There are three sides to ever story. Mine, Yours and the truth”.

So why is it that we can argue with such tenacity and sometimes great vulgarity on an impossibility?  I believe (and this is only MY perception) we are all simply arrogant, ignorant and unconscious. We all walk around with our own opinions of what we see, think or do on a day to day basis, and we all make harsh judgments about people, places and things we know either nothing or very little about. That takes arrogance… We experience and give hatred over being democrat or republican, man or woman, adult or child, Baptist or Muslim, Black or White. We have the audacity to say anyone of these things are best. Wow, what humanity has created has nothing to do with truth or honesty, Kindness or consideration. What mankind has built is the great wall of self. It perpetrates itself with educated ignorance and holier than thou religion. It twists itself up and entangles lies and hatred with love and honesty. It says it understands yet causes pain, tears, defamation and death. It wraps its bony fingers around our ignorance’s and proudly shakes the hands of the audacious pretense of self formulated morality. It uses the name of wrong as if it is right. I know it is a fact that if you don’t stand for something,  you can fall for anything; so I suppose my ultimate question is….Why can’t that something that we stand for as a people be each other?

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Perception is 9/10ths of the lie…the crux of ill-gotten wisdom.

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